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Messi vs. Ronaldo: who's better?

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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:04 am

Messi vs Ronaldo. whos better?
The answer: Messi, and it isnt even a debate.
Why?
Lets do a comparison:
Messi: 8 ballon dor awards, Ronaldo 5
Messi: 1 world cup, ronaldo 0
Messi: 2 copa america, ronaldo 1 euro
Messi: 4 UEFA champions, ronaldo 5
Messi: 10 la liga titles, ronaldo only 2, and they spend many years playing against each other in la liga.
As you can see, in terms of honours (major trophies for club/country, and personal awards)
Messi is far better.

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Post by Bob Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:18 am

Alice, while Messi is undeniably great, Cristiano Ronaldo stands out for his versatility and achievements. Ronaldo has won league titles in England, Spain, and Italy, demonstrating adaptability. He's the all-time top scorer in the UEFA Champions League with 140 goals and has 5 titles. Internationally, he led Portugal to their first Euro and Nations League titles. Ronaldo has scored over 800 career goals and is the first player to score 50+ goals in seven consecutive seasons. His decisive performances in crucial moments further solidify his case. These factors make a compelling case for Ronaldo being the better player.

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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:29 am

These factors doesnt make a change.
Adaptibility, you say
When he join juventus, although he still managed to win series A for 2 years, the teams' performance drops in CL, and they lost the 9 year winning streak of series A in 2020-2021, and were not qualified for UEFA CL that year.
And for Manchester United, right after cr7 joined, they failed to be qualify for CL that year.
Besides, Messi, like ronaldo, has also scored over 800 career goals, and he even has over 400 assists, and cr7 only has 200+. Suggesting that messi is a more complete player.

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Post by Bob Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:37 am

Alice, while Ronaldo joined Juventus, he was Serie A top scorer in 2020-2021 with 29 goals, and scored 101 goals in 134 appearances overall. At Manchester United, he was the Premier League's third top scorer in 2021-2022 with 18 goals.

Regarding big games, Ronaldo scored 17 goals in the 2013-2014 UCL season, a record. He has 140 UCL goals, many in knockout stages. In Euro 2016, Ronaldo led Portugal with crucial goals, including a brace against Hungary and a key assist in the semifinal, helping them win their first major tournament. These stats highlight Ronaldo's consistent impact in big games.

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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:43 am

LOL, what a god damn joke it is. Very Happy
Performance in big games?
Tell you a truth, Ronaldo has scored 0 goals and 0 assists in World cup knockout stages in 5 world cup participations, yes FIVE!
And the Euros? He only played for 25 minutes in the final, and in fact, portugal didnt win a single match in the groups stage, including the hungary match you say, and only 1 goal in knockout stage vs wales. Suggesting that his performance is not that good.

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Post by Bob Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:50 am

Alice, let's be real:

World Cup Performance:
Messi’s 0 goals in the 2010 World Cup and failures in Copa America finals until 2021 show he’s also had his struggles.

Euro 2016:
Ronaldo’s leadership and key goals carried Portugal to the final, even if injured during the final. Messi’s World Cup and Copa America wins came with heavy lifting by Alvarez, Di Maria, and Martinez.

Recent Form:
Ronaldo scored 24 goals for Manchester United in 2021-2022 and over 50 goals for Nassr in Saudi. Meanwhile, Messi underperformed at PSG and has done little with Miami. These points highlight Ronaldo's sustained excellence.


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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:58 am

Messi didn't score in the 2010 World Cup but did provide a knockout stage assist, unlike Ronaldo, who has 0 assists in 5 World Cups. Messi reached multiple Copa America finals, winning in 2021 and the 2022 World Cup, where he scored twice and was named the best player. In contrast, Ronaldo reached only one Euro final and often fell short in major tournaments. Messi's consistent impact in crucial games, with multiple best player awards, contrasts sharply with Ronaldo's less decisive tournament performances.


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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:01 am

And what has ronaldo done in AL Nassr? he scores but his team loses 2 consecutive saudi leagues (Al nassr was the champion before he joins) While messi won the leagues cup in inter miami, which makes their team able to qualify for US open cup

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Post by Bob Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:02 am

Bro, let's be honest. UEFA has shown clear favoritism towards Messi. The World Cups and Copa Americas Messi won were controversial. The Ballon d'Or has become a joke, often ignoring deserving players like Xavi or Iniesta in 2010, Lewandowski in 2021, Neuer in 2014, and Van Dijk in 2019. UEFA’s bias undermines fair competition. Given this, there's no real point in debating. Best wishes.

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Post by Carol Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:05 am

You can't just focus on the goal of a player to determent if he is good or bad. Assist is also an important factor as playing football need teamwork too. For Messi, he has at least one assist in every world cup he participate while for Ronaldo, he has 0 assist in the two recent world cup. And in total, Messi has 8 assist and Ronaldo only has 4.

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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:07 am

Oh, you turn to controveries now, look at 2013 ballon dor, what has ronaldo done? 0 trophies for real madrid.
And for 2010, all 3 players are astonishing, it is fair to give it to any of them.
And 2019, what controvery there is?
Messi led his team to win all the trophies except the CL, even Van dijk admit that Messi deserve it, theres no debate at all.

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Post by Bob Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:07 am

I'm telling you all, FIFA is a joke. They support Messi and zionists. There's no point in arguing since it's out of our hands, but personally, Ronaldo is just better. Lol.

Chris you have 0 ball knowledge.

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Post by Carol Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:09 am

Now thats a argue without evidence

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Post by Bob Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:10 am

Bro go watch some football

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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:10 am

And ronaldo is a team destroyer.
look at the stat of marcus rashford and dybala after CR7 joined their teams
rashford scored 22 and has 11 assists before cr7 joined MAN U
after he joined: 5 goals 2 assists.
Dybala 26 goals before he joined juventus
after he joined: 11 goals

he destroyed these young players

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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:11 am

Chris, that guy has run out of arguments, and he can only say myths now

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Post by Bob Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:11 am

Injuries destroyed them, not Ronaldo lol
They both admire him and he is their childhood icon.

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Post by Carol Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:11 am

But look at the result

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Post by Bob Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:12 am

How can I argue when the whole world is against him.
FIFA is pro-Messi organization

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Post by Carol Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:12 am

Ronaldo is just no match to Messi's skill and leadership

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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:12 am

LOL, did you notice their change of position in their teams after CR7 joined

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Post by Bob Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:13 am

LOL, do you watch football?

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Post by Carol Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:13 am

More than you do

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Post by Alice Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:13 am

For skills, lets compare the number of succesful dribbles they have

messi: 2200+
ronaldo: 1300

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