Messi vs. Ronaldo: who's better?

Messi vs. Ronaldo: who's better?

In terms of team honor, whatever in National team or club team, Messi had more champion cup than CR7, with a total number of 45, and also has a biggest honor-- the FIFA world cup.

In terms of personal honor, Messi has eight Ballon d' Or awards and more European Golden Shoe and some other personal honor.

All in all, whether it is individual honor or team honor, Messi is better than CR7,CR7 outstanding place only more Champions League.

First of all, comparing team honors should not be done in terms of numbers alone, but rather in terms of the gold content of the championships as well as the degree of contribution to the tournament as a whole. Ronaldo has more Champions League titles and led Real Madrid to an unprecedented three consecutive titles. Secondly, personal honor, not only to compare the title of the title, but also to look at the player's own value of the embodiment. Ronaldo loves public welfare, self-discipline not tattoo in order to donate blood.

Football team sport. Champions League team's honor. Comes to individual roles, CR7 worse in the finals 2016 and 2018. After CR7 leave,  Real Madrid also had 2 Champions League. So it's the same that whether have CR7 or not. If CR7 can lead Real Mardrid to win as U said, why can't he score goals and assist Portugal to win World Cup and this year's European Cup? Portugal's tactics this year revolve around CR7. But Messi has a record of scoring in knockout games and even finals, whether he has won title with Barca or Argentina.

Cristiano Ronaldo contributed a brilliant reverse stick goal in the semi-final against Juventus. He also contributed superb goals in the knockout stages. As for the final, I'm wondering if there are any stats that indicate a bad performance? Is a striker's contribution only goals? Leaving Real Madrid, Real Madrid still managed to win the title that's because Real Madrid constantly has new leaders stepping up, but Crowe's contribution to Real Madrid is a credit to the team.

The FIFA World Cup Golden Ball (2022) and a Ballon d'Or (2023), goals in the World Cup Final, and the champion in the United. That says all. If striker's contribution only goals, CR7 is good enough. I agree that CR7 is the King of Champions League, top 1 or 2 striker in the world. But Messi is the best player. As for charity, Messi also has Foundation,UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador, and also donated to hospitals.

I recognize that Ronaldo has not won a World Cup. Soccer is a team sport and Portugal is a little less strong overall. How many of Argentina's goals to win the World Cup came from Messi? How many of the goals were sporting goals? And how many goals came from penalties?

How many more goals and honors did Messi have after he left Barcelona? In the discussion of who is better, it is important to look at the player's entire career, including the peak and now at the end of his career, Cairo has always been disciplined and always hungry for victory.

Adam wrote:In terms of team honor, whatever in National team or club team, Messi had more champion cup than CR7, with a total number of 45, and also has a biggest honor-- the FIFA world cup.

In terms of personal honor, Messi has eight Ballon d' Or awards and more European Golden Shoe and some other personal honor.

All in all, whether it is individual honor or team honor, Messi is better than CR7,CR7 outstanding place only more Champions League.

Messi's so-called greatness is a farce! During the 2022 World Cup, he benefited from an absurd 5 penalties, clearly showing how much the referees favored Argentina. It's a disgrace to the sport. On top of that, he's stolen more than four Ballon d'Or awards from truly deserving players like Haaland, Sneijder, Xavi, and Lewandowski. It's outrageous that he's even in the GOAT conversation! This blatant favoritism and undeserved accolades make a mockery of football's integrity. Messi's overhyped legacy is nothing but a product of biased refereeing and corrupt voting!

Firstly, which penalty decision was wrong in the world Cup? Secondly, if the penalty count as a goal? Finaly, is this "grape are sour if you can't eat them"?
All in all, stop the conspiracy theories and get back to football itself.
The era of "Jue Dai Shuang Jiao" is coming to an end, and the two heros are getting old, so I think it is better to argue less and give them respect they deserve.

Ronaldo  led a young Portugal team to the Europa League title in 2016. Although he left early in the final due to injury, weren't several key goals and several comebacks on the way to the final famous scenes contributed by Crowe?

Cristiano Ronaldo, criticism for certain actions and statements throughout his career. Here's an analysis of these aspects, particularly his criticisms of teammates. During his time at Manchester United, he openly expressed his dissatisfaction with the team's performance and certain players' commitment. Similar incidents occurred at Real Madrid and Juventus, where he sometimes showed visible frustration on the pitch.

Adam wrote:Football team sport. Champions League team's honor. Comes to individual roles, CR7 worse in the finals 2016 and 2018. After CR7 leave,  Real Madrid also had 2 Champions League. So it's the same that whether have CR7 or not. If CR7 can lead Real Mardrid to win as U said, why can't he score goals and assist Portugal to win World Cup and this year's European Cup? Portugal's tactics this year revolve around CR7. But Messi has a record of scoring in knockout games and even finals, whether he has won title with Barca or Argentina.

Claiming Messi won titles at Barca purely due to personal ability is nonsense! Messi was surrounded by world-class teammates like Neymar, Suarez, Xavi, and Iniesta. Without them, Messi wouldn't have achieved half of what he did. His teammates always had to wipe his butt after he made some mess on the field, poor baby Messi . On the other hand, dismissing Ronaldo's achievements at Real Madrid as relying solely on good teammates is laughable. Both Messi and Ronaldo thrived because of their incredible teammates, but Messi fans need to stop pretending he did it all alone. It's pure delusion!

CR7 has Sexual Assault Allegations: Ronaldo has faced serious allegations of sexual assault. In 2009, Kathryn Mayorga accused him of rape, an accusation Ronaldo has denied. The case was settled out of court, and while Ronaldo maintains his innocence, the allegations have tainted his public image.
But Messi has no other off-field affairs. As for tax evasion, Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo Santos Avero have in common, and they all solve it.

Adam wrote:Firstly, which penalty decision was wrong in the world Cup? Secondly, if the penalty count as a goal? Finaly, is this "grape are sour if you can't eat them"?
All in all, stop the conspiracy theories and get back to football itself.
The era of "Jue Dai Shuang Jiao" is coming to an end, and the two heros are getting old, so I think it is better to argue less and give them respect they deserve.

I'm talking about the penalty in the final. The one Di Maria "created" was pure cheating! It's crystal clear that Di Maria tripped himself in the box, and yet the referee, acting like he was blind, handed Argentina a penalty on a silver platter. And who benefits again? Messi, of course.

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CR7 has Sexual Assault Allegations: Ronaldo has faced serious allegations of sexual assault. In 2009, Kathryn Mayorga accused him of rape, an accusation Ronaldo has denied. The case was settled out of court, and while Ronaldo maintains his innocence, the allegations have tainted his public image.
But Messi has no other off-field affairs. As for tax evasion, Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo Santos Avero have in common, and they all solve it.

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Adam wrote:Firstly, which penalty decision was wrong in the world Cup? Secondly, if the penalty count as a goal? Finaly, is this "grape are sour if you can't eat them"?
All in all, stop the conspiracy theories and get back to football itself.
The era of "Jue Dai Shuang Jiao" is coming to an end, and the two heros are getting old, so I think it is better to argue less and give them respect they deserve.

I'm talking about the penalty in the final. The one Di Maria "created" was pure cheating! It's crystal clear that Di Maria tripped himself in the box, and yet the referee, acting like he was blind, handed Argentina a penalty on a silver platter. And who benefits again? Messi, of course.

When it comes to cheating penalties and free-kicks, Cr7 is a worthy DIVING champion. And we didn't talk about Di Maria. SEE SEE U

Adam wrote:CR7 has Sexual Assault Allegations: Ronaldo has faced serious allegations of sexual assault. In 2009, Kathryn Mayorga accused him of rape, an accusation Ronaldo has denied. The case was settled out of court, and while Ronaldo maintains his innocence, the allegations have tainted his public image.
But Messi has no other off-field affairs. As for tax evasion, Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo Santos Avero have in common, and they all solve it.

I agree that any man who commits sexual assault is trash. But let's talk about Messi's personal life. I seriously doubt the authenticity of Messi's relationship with Antonela. It's pretty clear that Antonela didn't prioritize Messi until he gained fame at Barca.
Only after he became a superstar did she finally agree to be with him. It's a mix of pity and fortune for the little dwarf Messi to finally land his so-called goddess.